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[edit] Visordome = not scifag?

Visordome passed out some flyers of his own at this protest, turns out he's a photographer/body artist. The flyer contains the info Mushroomcloudangel@gmail.com and modelmayhem.com/mushroomcloudangel I propose, therefore, that he is a namefag, and not a scifag. -- Anon11547

He's not a scifag. Let him be, he's on our side.
you missed a whole episode about this dood... he came to number 2 and took a butt-load of pics.. masked and un-masked.. asked for emails which he never followed up with.. blah blah freaked a few out on here when he never stepped back up to share.. -- Anonymous081993
Yeah I was really freaked out at Party Hard when he was asking for our Email addresses and that we should all keep in touch. So, when I saw him again this time, I pretty much went aggro on his ass all day. He had admitted on video that he does this for buisiness. I interpreted that at the time that he was a PI. Eventually, he started passing out those fliers for his photography site. I checked the site, it seems legit enough. He even was passing out trifolds at one point. -- Sativa
I've met this guy a few times in real life. He's a friend of an old coworker. I even said hi to him at party hard even though he didn't remember me. I don't know him very well, but I can vouch that he's not a PI or a scilon. -- Brain
good, good, it's great to see these threads being pro-active... -- Ananonymous.Now

[edit] Don't freak out.

2 guys and a girl came to take pictures w/ surgical masks on. We just want pictures, we let you put your masks on or cover up. We ask politely. Thank you for letting us get pictures. We want people to see your good work. We will come again. We will bring water again. -Thanks -- Guygirlcameras

Trouble Makers is a very loose definition. If we go with, "anyone who comes up and is overly aggressive in nature" then I think we need to tighten it up.. we could be losing out on the reconnect, if you know what i mean.

most sci's at protest do one of three or four things.. never more than that never less.

  1. stand off staring at crowd
  2. walkup, talk shit, walk away,
  3. take a fuckload of pictures, right under our noses.. (imho)
  4. pay no attention whatsoever...

so in that.. theres too many people on this page who have never been aggro by the anonymous.

idk maybe im going in the wrong direction with this too...

  • Addendum: if and only if bull baiting tactics are used (and in a LOT of the below cases is true) then, In true old-school protest fashion.. exposed Lulzkillers will then be given glib names by which to refer to them.
we need creativity.. no 'hot scientologist' or long complicated shit..
Chunky McScilon
named him fake jogger initially, because when we we're arriving we saw this man 'jogging' toward two anonymous who who were walking up westheimer to the protest corner, this man may have followed the anons we saw him chasing for a longer distance, as we had just rolled up and were busting a U-turn and that was suspicious as fuck to me..--Ananonymous.Now 00:49, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
This man is in fact a scilon. I was approched by him on my way to the protest. He accused me of being a terrorist, and the usual scilon bullshit. I hit him with the "where are you at on the bridge?" then combo'd him with the xenu story, he quickly turned away. This man is a bull baiter, he was using classic bull baiting TR's.
scilon1.jpg
hot scientologist, or hottest scientologist?
scilon2.jpg
Unnamed Scilon 2
scilon3.jpg
Unnamed Scilon 3
scilon4.jpg
Unnamed Scilon 4
scilon5.jpg
Unnamed Scilon 5
scilon9.jpg
Unnamed Scilon 6
scilon10.jpg
Unnamed Scilon 7
Skunky and Junky
Suspicious, these guys never stood with the group. Possible innocent bystanders.
VisorDome (Scilon? PI?)
Taking pictures of maskless anons eating delicious cake.
VisorDome (Scilon? PI?)
Different angle.
VisorDome (Scilon? PI?)
Super Close-up.
Morgan Freeman (AC?)
drove by our group 2/10/2008 while on Scientology private property and parked, could just be an employee of a business next to Co$.

[edit] Anonymous Relations with the Public

found this floating http://pastebin.com/f4dfd1338

http://forums.enturbulation.org/12-activism-projects-planning/general-public-loosing-interest-you-wonder-why-10081/

I've sent this message to a couple of anon in the hope that you can get the message over to others.

If you remember, I have been actively supporting all anti cos efforts, including directly with Tony & Sue. Yet I wont be attending in May......

I will continue to "do my bit" against the CoS, but not at the raids any more because of the attitude of some anon to myself. I have been at each protest in Manchester but last time I found the atmosphere very different.

I got the clear message from more than one that I was not welcome as I didn't fit the anon "profile". Crazy in my opinion. Would have thought ANY support was good.

Some were grateful for [the items] I brought for you all to hand out. I talked to a photographer from the MEN who was doing a piece on the cabbage walking to try to get his interest. I brought the Sunday Express article for Tony, I spoke to members of the public who were too afraid to talk to people in masks. I thought my efforts were useful.

Yet so many anon were decidedly hostile despite my reassurances. Suspicion I understand, but rejection simply because I am a short fat grey older lady, I don't.

Some people like myself are unable, or feel uncomfortable staying the whole few hours but keep reappearing with supplies and words of encouragement, taking photos etc. I had pretty good evidence that I was doing lots against the Cos but I would compromise MY identity if I disclosed too much. I didn't mind being asked why I was there but was truly pissed off that I then still got a hard time.

[..]

I will now move away from aupporting anonymous and continue to focus my anti - coc efforts away from here.

Good luck with everything you are doing

J

not a story from our town.. but it might as well be. --Ananonymous.Now 14:09, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

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